Albertsons/Safeway 2018: Openings and Closings

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Re: Albertsons/Safeway 2018: Openings and Closings

Post by arizonaguy » October 13th, 2018, 5:02 pm

It looks like there's a very nice Safeway in Bellevue that was just renovated with the Florida decor not far from this store.

I'm sure that the renovation of the Bellevue store had to play a factor into the decision to close this one.

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Re: Albertsons/Safeway 2018: Openings and Closings

Post by Brian Lutz » October 16th, 2018, 9:03 am

Factoria was originally one of the Pay 'n Save mall developments, with a Pay 'n Save store on one side and an Ernst Hardware (where the Old Navy is now) on the other, with a Lamonts in between. From what I understand the mall is going to get a major redevelopment along the lines of what happened to Totem Lake in Kirkland, although I don't know the timeframe. There's a Target in the back (connected to the mall, which is rather odd for a Target) and a Walmart on the south side of the property where the Mervyn's used to be (not connected to the mall.) Much of what was in between remained empty for a lot of years.

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Re: Albertsons/Safeway 2018: Openings and Closings

Post by Super S » October 16th, 2018, 7:35 pm

Brian Lutz wrote:
October 16th, 2018, 9:03 am
Factoria was originally one of the Pay 'n Save mall developments, with a Pay 'n Save store on one side and an Ernst Hardware (where the Old Navy is now) on the other, with a Lamonts in between. From what I understand the mall is going to get a major redevelopment along the lines of what happened to Totem Lake in Kirkland, although I don't know the timeframe. There's a Target in the back (connected to the mall, which is rather odd for a Target) and a Walmart on the south side of the property where the Mervyn's used to be (not connected to the mall.) Much of what was in between remained empty for a lot of years.
A Target connected to the mall isn't all that odd. I know of several: Mall 205 in Portland (former Montgomery Ward), The Commons at Federal Way (which replaced a nearby store several years back), South Hill Mall in Puyallup. The store at Lakewood Town Center also once had an entrance to the now-gone enclosed mall, and the old Target at Jantzen Beach also opened into the mall (this was also a former Montgomery Ward, the current store replaced it when the old mall was demolished)

What IS odd is the fact that there is a Walmart and a Target in the same center, although Vancouver, WA has a Target that shares the shopping center with a Walmart Neighborhood Market which is in part of a former WinCo.

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Re: Albertsons/Safeway 2018: Openings and Closings

Post by rwsandiego » October 16th, 2018, 9:26 pm

Super S wrote:
October 16th, 2018, 7:35 pm
Brian Lutz wrote:
October 16th, 2018, 9:03 am
Factoria was originally one of the Pay 'n Save mall developments, with a Pay 'n Save store on one side and an Ernst Hardware (where the Old Navy is now) on the other, with a Lamonts in between. From what I understand the mall is going to get a major redevelopment along the lines of what happened to Totem Lake in Kirkland, although I don't know the timeframe. There's a Target in the back (connected to the mall, which is rather odd for a Target) and a Walmart on the south side of the property where the Mervyn's used to be (not connected to the mall.) Much of what was in between remained empty for a lot of years.
A Target connected to the mall isn't all that odd. I know of several: Mall 205 in Portland (former Montgomery Ward), The Commons at Federal Way (which replaced a nearby store several years back), South Hill Mall in Puyallup. The store at Lakewood Town Center also once had an entrance to the now-gone enclosed mall, and the old Target at Jantzen Beach also opened into the mall (this was also a former Montgomery Ward, the current store replaced it when the old mall was demolished)...
The Targets at Golf Mill (Niles, Illinois outside of Chicago), Grossmont Plaza (LaMesa, CA outside of San Diego), Mission Valley Center (San Diego), and Westfield North County (Escondido, CA outside of San Diego) all have mall entrances.
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October 16th, 2018, 9:03 am
...What IS odd is the fact that there is a Walmart and a Target in the same center, although Vancouver, WA has a Target that shares the shopping center with a Walmart Neighborhood Market which is in part of a former WinCo.
While I agree it is not common, Grossmont has both a Target (former Bullocks) and a Walmart (former Wards).

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Re: Albertsons/Safeway 2018: Openings and Closings

Post by Brian Lutz » Yesterday, 7:31 am

Target has been in Factoria for far longer than Walmart has, and is a fairly recent addition to the mall. It's definitely on the small side for a Walmart store (about 70k square feet) and I don't believe it's considered to be a Supercenter store. They probably could have built a Supercenter store if they wanted to, since they opened a Neighborhood Market store in part of what used to be a KMart store (which sat vacant for 12+ years before the center was redeveloped) and would have had enough space for it. Instead they opted to open two separate stores and take only a portion of the former KMart. Given the real estate market in Bellevue I suspect opportunities to build from scratch were basically nonexistent, and even if they could they would likely have run into significant political opposition (even the stores they did manage to build ran into attempts to block them.)

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Re: Albertsons/Safeway 2018: Openings and Closings

Post by pseudo3d » Yesterday, 7:39 pm

Brian Lutz wrote:
Yesterday, 7:31 am
Target has been in Factoria for far longer than Walmart has, and is a fairly recent addition to the mall. It's definitely on the small side for a Walmart store (about 70k square feet) and I don't believe it's considered to be a Supercenter store. They probably could have built a Supercenter store if they wanted to, since they opened a Neighborhood Market store in part of what used to be a KMart store (which sat vacant for 12+ years before the center was redeveloped) and would have had enough space for it. Instead they opted to open two separate stores and take only a portion of the former KMart. Given the real estate market in Bellevue I suspect opportunities to build from scratch were basically nonexistent, and even if they could they would likely have run into significant political opposition (even the stores they did manage to build ran into attempts to block them.)
Walmart's store at Factoria was a former Mervyn's. You can even tell this from the facade of the store, which was left largely intact.

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Re: Albertsons/Safeway 2018: Openings and Closings

Post by Brian Lutz » Today, 7:33 am

pseudo3d wrote:
Yesterday, 7:39 pm
Walmart's store at Factoria was a former Mervyn's. You can even tell this from the facade of the store, which was left largely intact.
Yes it was. It spent several years vacant after the Mervyn's store closed before Walmart took over the space.

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