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Re: Walmart observations

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BillyGr wrote: November 16th, 2023, 1:48 pm
veteran+ wrote: November 15th, 2023, 10:30 am There are specific food safety laws that cover this.

Cross contamination can deadly.
Obviously, you didn't read very well!

I specifically said THROW AWAY THE SLICE OR TWO that actually TOUCHED THE METAL - that would eliminate ANY SUCH CONTAMINATION!

The rest of the product above that WAS NOT CONTAMINATED, nor would it EVER BE SO - that is where the stupidity and waste of money (of not just this customer but of EVERY customer in that store) is.
I caught them pretty quickly and they probably threw away like three or four slices. They only have the manual slicers not the automatic ones that fly back and forth quickly. They were pretty sloppy and just letting it fall straight down onto the metal but it didn't land in a neat pile, it was everywhere.

The point is that they have all of the equipment and supplies to do this correctly within arms reach of every machine, paper towels, sanitizer spray, and the plastic liners. The trained folks usually wipe it down quickly then lay down plastic and usually will use a gloved hand to catch or control the meat falling out of the slicer so it forms a neat clean pile. But they have a lot of people who are not trained now and that was the issue, just throwing meat onto the slicer and letting it fall onto a pile of other particles and juices that could have been there for hours for all I know growing bacteria. There are other examples I can also use to describe incompetence that I have observed, such as improper slicing of Roast Beef (not cutting across the grain), and my personal favorite trying to slice wax wrapped cheese without trimming back the wax. The same Ralphs also had the chicken roasting oven catch on fire earlier this year, closing the store for the rest of the day and then it took several months for a new automatic oven to arrive. They still have not repainted the smoke damaged soffit above the counter. If you can't work a slicer, can't identify which way to slice beef, try to slice wax covered cheese without removing the wax, AND burn down your chicken roaster that probably cost more than my Lexus SUV (all the same store!) it's probably a clear indicator of crappy training and workplace culture.

The point is that it's surprising how the deli departments of these stores are suffering from lack of trained personnel when they used to be an area staffed with trained specialists. The best and brightest were always promoted or hired into these departments, now it seems like they are bringing in people and giving them a quick rundown then letting them loose and hoping they don't poison anyone or accidentally slice a finger off.

And with that I think this dive into Ralphs and Smiths and deli slicers has gone pretty far off topic from Walmart observations. Probably time to pivot back.
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ClownLoach wrote: November 16th, 2023, 10:14 pm
BillyGr wrote: November 16th, 2023, 1:48 pm
veteran+ wrote: November 15th, 2023, 10:30 am There are specific food safety laws that cover this.

Cross contamination can deadly.
Obviously, you didn't read very well!

I specifically said THROW AWAY THE SLICE OR TWO that actually TOUCHED THE METAL - that would eliminate ANY SUCH CONTAMINATION!

The rest of the product above that WAS NOT CONTAMINATED, nor would it EVER BE SO - that is where the stupidity and waste of money (of not just this customer but of EVERY customer in that store) is.
I caught them pretty quickly and they probably threw away like three or four slices. They only have the manual slicers not the automatic ones that fly back and forth quickly. They were pretty sloppy and just letting it fall straight down onto the metal but it didn't land in a neat pile, it was everywhere.

The point is that they have all of the equipment and supplies to do this correctly within arms reach of every machine, paper towels, sanitizer spray, and the plastic liners. The trained folks usually wipe it down quickly then lay down plastic and usually will use a gloved hand to catch or control the meat falling out of the slicer so it forms a neat clean pile. But they have a lot of people who are not trained now and that was the issue, just throwing meat onto the slicer and letting it fall onto a pile of other particles and juices that could have been there for hours for all I know growing bacteria. There are other examples I can also use to describe incompetence that I have observed, such as improper slicing of Roast Beef (not cutting across the grain), and my personal favorite trying to slice wax wrapped cheese without trimming back the wax.

And with that I think this dive into Ralphs and Smiths and deli slicers has gone pretty far off topic from Walmart observations. Probably time to pivot back.
We need to try some Wal Mart deli purchases and see how they handle the slicer...

I should have tried in the Dietz and Watson units I saw.
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Re: Walmart observations

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storewanderer wrote: November 16th, 2023, 10:19 pm
ClownLoach wrote: November 16th, 2023, 10:14 pm
BillyGr wrote: November 16th, 2023, 1:48 pm

Obviously, you didn't read very well!

I specifically said THROW AWAY THE SLICE OR TWO that actually TOUCHED THE METAL - that would eliminate ANY SUCH CONTAMINATION!

The rest of the product above that WAS NOT CONTAMINATED, nor would it EVER BE SO - that is where the stupidity and waste of money (of not just this customer but of EVERY customer in that store) is.
I caught them pretty quickly and they probably threw away like three or four slices. They only have the manual slicers not the automatic ones that fly back and forth quickly. They were pretty sloppy and just letting it fall straight down onto the metal but it didn't land in a neat pile, it was everywhere.

The point is that they have all of the equipment and supplies to do this correctly within arms reach of every machine, paper towels, sanitizer spray, and the plastic liners. The trained folks usually wipe it down quickly then lay down plastic and usually will use a gloved hand to catch or control the meat falling out of the slicer so it forms a neat clean pile. But they have a lot of people who are not trained now and that was the issue, just throwing meat onto the slicer and letting it fall onto a pile of other particles and juices that could have been there for hours for all I know growing bacteria. There are other examples I can also use to describe incompetence that I have observed, such as improper slicing of Roast Beef (not cutting across the grain), and my personal favorite trying to slice wax wrapped cheese without trimming back the wax.

And with that I think this dive into Ralphs and Smiths and deli slicers has gone pretty far off topic from Walmart observations. Probably time to pivot back.
We need to try some Wal Mart deli purchases and see how they handle the slicer...

I should have tried in the Dietz and Watson units I saw.
Since I'm a glutton for punishment I will go down to Temecula sometime next week and check it out (IF they have anything I want, maybe they'll have the London Broil which D&W does a good job with, lots of lemon and garlic). If they contaminate my selection I'll be sure to take an inventory of how many slices are disposed of 😂
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ClownLoach wrote: November 16th, 2023, 10:21 pm

Since I'm a glutton for punishment I will go down to Temecula sometime next week and check it out (IF they have anything I want, maybe they'll have the London Broil which D&W does a good job with, lots of lemon and garlic). If they contaminate my selection I'll be sure to take an inventory of how many slices are disposed of 😂
That current Wal Mart lunchmeat Prima Bella or whatever it is, is comparable in quality to Kretschmer or however you spell it. Something neutral like pepperoni if you need it or some cheese would probably be acceptable quality.

The prepackaged stuff at Wal Mart in that product line in bags that look store packed is not packaged in store anymore (it was up until COVID) and is just labeled there.

I will give props to the Wal Mart Deli "Chicken strip snack" - 1 strip and 1 side for something like 2.48. This is something I purchase sometimes. I have had no issues with food handling when making these purchases. The Macaroni and Cheese is no worse than Stouffers (actually I think it is better). The strip is very pedestrian level- very acceptable quality.
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ClownLoach wrote: November 16th, 2023, 10:21 pm Since I'm a glutton for punishment I will go down to Temecula sometime next week and check it out (IF they have anything I want, maybe they'll have the London Broil which D&W does a good job with, lots of lemon and garlic). If they contaminate my selection I'll be sure to take an inventory of how many slices are disposed of 😂
No reason to act dumb with the cry face! Next time just make the FIRST post with ALL the information (rather than waiting until a couple days later) and it won't sound like you were making them waste a pound or more of product for one or two pieces that might have been contaminated!
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BillyGr wrote: November 17th, 2023, 12:13 pm
ClownLoach wrote: November 16th, 2023, 10:21 pm Since I'm a glutton for punishment I will go down to Temecula sometime next week and check it out (IF they have anything I want, maybe they'll have the London Broil which D&W does a good job with, lots of lemon and garlic). If they contaminate my selection I'll be sure to take an inventory of how many slices are disposed of 😂
No reason to act dumb with the cry face! Next time just make the FIRST post with ALL the information (rather than waiting until a couple days later) and it won't sound like you were making them waste a pound or more of product for one or two pieces that might have been contaminated!
What is going on with you and your tone lately?

It's not cool :(
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veteran+ wrote: November 17th, 2023, 12:52 pm
BillyGr wrote: November 17th, 2023, 12:13 pm
ClownLoach wrote: November 16th, 2023, 10:21 pm Since I'm a glutton for punishment I will go down to Temecula sometime next week and check it out (IF they have anything I want, maybe they'll have the London Broil which D&W does a good job with, lots of lemon and garlic). If they contaminate my selection I'll be sure to take an inventory of how many slices are disposed of 😂
No reason to act dumb with the cry face! Next time just make the FIRST post with ALL the information (rather than waiting until a couple days later) and it won't sound like you were making them waste a pound or more of product for one or two pieces that might have been contaminated!
What is going on with you and your tone lately?

It's not cool :(
Have a lot going on. Maybe I should take a break from the site for a while.
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Re: Walmart observations

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storewanderer wrote: November 16th, 2023, 10:31 pm
ClownLoach wrote: November 16th, 2023, 10:21 pm

Since I'm a glutton for punishment I will go down to Temecula sometime next week and check it out (IF they have anything I want, maybe they'll have the London Broil which D&W does a good job with, lots of lemon and garlic). If they contaminate my selection I'll be sure to take an inventory of how many slices are disposed of 😂
That current Wal Mart lunchmeat Prima Bella or whatever it is, is comparable in quality to Kretschmer or however you spell it. Something neutral like pepperoni if you need it or some cheese would probably be acceptable quality.

The prepackaged stuff at Wal Mart in that product line in bags that look store packed is not packaged in store anymore (it was up until COVID) and is just labeled there.

I will give props to the Wal Mart Deli "Chicken strip snack" - 1 strip and 1 side for something like 2.48. This is something I purchase sometimes. I have had no issues with food handling when making these purchases. The Macaroni and Cheese is no worse than Stouffers (actually I think it is better). The strip is very pedestrian level- very acceptable quality.
I didn't care for the Kretschmar roast beef, it tasted like they use a horseradish marinade or something like that. I don't mind very light and subtle horseradish every now and then on specific meals, but it clashes with my typical sandwich cheeses and toppings. I basically make a homemade Jersey Mike's type sandwich.
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ClownLoach wrote: November 17th, 2023, 3:22 pm
veteran+ wrote: November 17th, 2023, 12:52 pm
BillyGr wrote: November 17th, 2023, 12:13 pm

No reason to act dumb with the cry face! Next time just make the FIRST post with ALL the information (rather than waiting until a couple days later) and it won't sound like you were making them waste a pound or more of product for one or two pieces that might have been contaminated!
What is going on with you and your tone lately?

It's not cool :(
Have a lot going on. Maybe I should take a break from the site for a while.
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veteran+ wrote: November 17th, 2023, 12:52 pm
BillyGr wrote: November 17th, 2023, 12:13 pm
ClownLoach wrote: November 16th, 2023, 10:21 pm Since I'm a glutton for punishment I will go down to Temecula sometime next week and check it out (IF they have anything I want, maybe they'll have the London Broil which D&W does a good job with, lots of lemon and garlic). If they contaminate my selection I'll be sure to take an inventory of how many slices are disposed of 😂
No reason to act dumb with the cry face! Next time just make the FIRST post with ALL the information (rather than waiting until a couple days later) and it won't sound like you were making them waste a pound or more of product for one or two pieces that might have been contaminated!
What is going on with you and your tone lately?

It's not cool :(
I posted based on what this person said (that they went to a deli and made them throw out perfectly good food because they forgot to put down a piece of paper).

The way it was posted, it sounded like they were being forced to throw away an entire order of meat, for no good reason.

Then, later on he says oh, they only did three or four slices.

Then, when making another post to someone else adds what is above "take an inventory of how many slices are disposed of with a face that looks to be laughing/crying at the same time.

All I said was that IF the ORIGINAL post was made clear, this would never have been a problem, thus any issue is with the person who can't make thing clear to begin with, then things they should "laugh/cry" about the topic to others that have NOTHING to do with the issue.

I have no issue otherwise, nor with you, unless you also post something that makes no sense (which I didn't see) :)
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