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Ralph's Manchester & Western

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I visited this store recently and found the sign the in window interesting. As far as I know, this store was a Boy's then Ralphs. I don't recall it being an Alphabeta. I'm assuming since Yucaipa owned Boy's and Alphabeta at the time, this was a "spun off" company for the SoCal division?

Still interesting to see the Alphabeta names lives if only on paper.
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Did you notice if the store was currently selling liquor? Seems strange that they would be applying for an initial off-sell liquor license for this old store.
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klkla wrote: February 8th, 2020, 9:14 pm Did you notice if the store was currently selling liquor? Seems strange that they would be applying for an initial off-sell liquor license for this old store.
Yes, they are currently selling liquor, both wine and hard liquor. Maybe the Boy's license expired for this location or, they had to re-apply for some other reason or another.
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steps wrote: February 8th, 2020, 9:57 pmYes, they are currently selling liquor, both wine and hard liquor. Maybe the Boy's license expired for this location or, they had to re-apply for some other reason or another.
I just looked at the sign up close. The text NEW LICENSE has been crossed out and something else written there that I can't understand. It looks like Perta Per , whatever that means.
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Not sure what that license action "perta per" is...

https://www.abc.ca.gov/licensing/license-types/

It appears they are trying to transfer a surrendered license into this store... https://www.abc.ca.gov/licensing/licens ... NSE=614282

Meanwhile their old license..
https://www.abc.ca.gov/licensing/licens ... E=%2068712
is getting transferred to Save Mart's new build store in Redding...

I don't get it.

Can no new licenses be issued so for Save Mart to license its new store they have to buy a license from someone else?
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storewanderer wrote: February 9th, 2020, 9:33 pm Not sure what that license action "perta per" is...

https://www.abc.ca.gov/licensing/license-types/

It appears they are trying to transfer a surrendered license into this store... https://www.abc.ca.gov/licensing/licens ... NSE=614282

Meanwhile their old license..
https://www.abc.ca.gov/licensing/licens ... E=%2068712
is getting transferred to Save Mart's new build store in Redding...

I don't get it.

Can no new licenses be issued so for Save Mart to license its new store they have to buy a license from someone else?
Could it be "peer to peer" just spelled wrong or "per to per"? Would that mean anything in liquor license transfer terms?

That's some great detective work! It's really strange about the sell/transfers. Are there any details as to which store/owner the surrendered license is coming from?
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It looks like they are transferring a license from a closed Ralphs store that still had an active license in another location to the Manchester store. Since new liquor licenses allowed to be issued every year are limited by county or city, that makes active licenses valuable. I'm sure Ralphs made money off the sale. Maybe one reason they did the transfer this way is that the license that was transferred from the closed Ralphs was issued to "Ralphs" as opposed to the one they sold which was issued to "Alpha Beta" and they make some money off the transaction as a plus.
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