J.C. Penney hires former Shopko executive to aid turnaround

[storewanderer]

Well here in Nevada, JC Penney is closed by order of governor Steve Sisolak along with all of the casinos and all other "non essential" businesses. Also I believe all Simon Malls are closed but I guess JC Penney could open its stores in some states and just not the mall entry?

It does seem a little unfair that stores like JC Penney are deemed "non essential" and must close while stores with clothing like Wal Mart and Target can stay open because food retailers and discount stores are deemed "essential." But whatever. The goal is to keep people from going out, I get it. I am really struggling with the ability of politicians to shut down entire industries that employ thousands of people yet allow other businesses that are basically the exact same thing to stay open.

Cannot wait for this whole thing to pass. And next time there is a pandemic like this that originates outside the US, the borders need to be closed early on to stop it from entering the US in the first place. But there is a giant group of politicians who would fight that idea tooth and nail, calling it racist and various other things. Given the lack of money that will be available for all of these politicians pork projects as a result of the upcoming recession or depression, perhaps they will have a different view in the future.

[veteran+]

Well here in Nevada, JC Penney is closed by order of governor Steve Sisolak along with all of the casinos and all other "non essential" businesses. Also I believe all Simon Malls are closed but I guess JC Penney could open its stores in some states and just not the mall entry?

It does seem a little unfair that stores like JC Penney are deemed "non essential" and must close while stores with clothing like Wal Mart and Target can stay open because food retailers and discount stores are deemed "essential." But whatever. The goal is to keep people from going out, I get it. I am really struggling with the ability of politicians to shut down entire industries that employ thousands of people yet allow other businesses that are basically the exact same thing to stay open.

Cannot wait for this whole thing to pass. And next time there is a pandemic like this that originates outside the US, the borders need to be closed early on to stop it from entering the US in the first place. But there is a giant group of politicians who would fight that idea tooth and nail, calling it racist and various other things. Given the lack of money that will be available for all of these politicians pork projects as a result of the upcoming recession or depression, perhaps they will have a different view in the future.

Well, if a certain person was paying attention to the State of Washington from the onset, maybe a temporary closing of all our borders would have helped. But MORE would have had to be done besides that.

Instead all that time was spent promulgating conspiracy theories.

[SamSpade]

Update: JCPenney stores and corporate offices closed yesterday and will remain so through at least April 2.

[klkla]

Cannot wait for this whole thing to pass. And next time there is a pandemic like this that originates outside the US, the borders need to be closed early on to stop it from entering the US in the first place. But there is a giant group of politicians who would fight that idea tooth and nail, calling it racist and various other things. Given the lack of money that will be available for all of these politicians pork projects as a result of the upcoming recession or depression, perhaps they will have a different view in the future.

This is the danger about making these political comments. For instance that paragraph could just as easily be written as.

Cannot wait for this whole thing to pass. And next time there is a pandemic like this that originates outside the US, the President of the Unites States needs to listen to scientists, epidemiologists and doctors and immediately institute a NATIONAL plan for combatting it, instead of denying that the problem exists for nearly two months and then making knee jerk responses every day. The United States used to be the world leader in these type of situations and we still don't have adequate test kits or a defined national plan for dealing with this problem. But there is a giant group of politicians who don't believe in science that would fight that idea tooth and nail. As a result of the upcoming recession or depression, perhaps they will have a different view in the future.

[veteran+]

And.......there are STILL elected politicians that believe this disaster is all hyped up and are ignoring guidance from scientists and doctors.

Just this morning an elected official from Alaska is promulgating this ignorance.

[storewanderer]

This is the danger about making these political comments. For instance that paragraph could just as easily be written as.

Cannot wait for this whole thing to pass. And next time there is a pandemic like this that originates outside the US, the President of the Unites States needs to listen to scientists, epidemiologists and doctors and immediately institute a NATIONAL plan for combatting it, instead of denying that the problem exists for nearly two months and then making knee jerk responses every day. The United States used to be the world leader in these type of situations and we still don't have adequate test kits or a defined national plan for dealing with this problem. But there is a giant group of politicians who don't believe in science that would fight that idea tooth and nail. As a result of the upcoming recession or depression, perhaps they will have a different view in the future.

Well, when the pandemic originates from the region of your largest trade partner, which also is your largest supplier of prescription drugs and vaccines, and they attempt to downplay it as it is boiling over in their region (November and December), and you trust them (in January), until it is too late, I guess you are sort of screwed. Tough to be the "world leader" when you do not receive timely information regarding the problem. Whether or not that is an internal failure in the US or because information was withheld or not delivered timely, is an unknown, but people are using their political feelings to conclude on the answer to that question since it makes them feel better I guess.

Sort of like all those stores that had runs on inventory. I am sure they and their suppliers would have "stocked up" had they known their volumes would go up 5-10 times due to all this. But they didn't have timely information until their shelves were wiped clean.

[BillyGr]

Just this morning an elected official from Alaska is promulgating this ignorance.

One can sort of see that, though. Having less people in their entire state than exist in any one of the 5 counties that make up New York City, with a land area that is larger than any other state, they shouldn't have nearly as much issue.

Also that a good number of those people live in small and fairly remote areas already, they do this distancing thing most of the time, so it's not a whole lot of change for them, unlike most of the rest of the country. When your nearest major supermarket is many miles (and hours) away, you already know how to shop infrequently, since it's taking you a day just to do that and you aren't going to do that too often.

[veteran+]

Just this morning an elected official from Alaska is promulgating this ignorance.

One can sort of see that, though. Having less people in their entire state than exist in any one of the 5 counties that make up New York City, with a land area that is larger than any other state, they shouldn't have nearly as much issue.

Also that a good number of those people live in small and fairly remote areas already, they do this distancing thing most of the time, so it's not a whole lot of change for them, unlike most of the rest of the country. When your nearest major supermarket is many miles (and hours) away, you already know how to shop infrequently, since it's taking you a day just to do that and you aren't going to do that too often.

Well, we will see in hindsight how that plays out in Alaska

[storewanderer]

Just this morning an elected official from Alaska is promulgating this ignorance.

One can sort of see that, though. Having less people in their entire state than exist in any one of the 5 counties that make up New York City, with a land area that is larger than any other state, they shouldn't have nearly as much issue.

Also that a good number of those people live in small and fairly remote areas already, they do this distancing thing most of the time, so it's not a whole lot of change for them, unlike most of the rest of the country. When your nearest major supermarket is many miles (and hours) away, you already know how to shop infrequently, since it's taking you a day just to do that and you aren't going to do that too often.

Well, we will see in hindsight how that plays out in Alaska

By the time that happens in a couple months, the rest of the US will be recovered. We can hope.

It does appear this thing impacts densely populated areas much more significantly than less densely populated areas... though that is not exactly a unique characteristic. Alaska has a lack of density in its favor here.

[BillyGr]

One can sort of see that, though. Having less people in their entire state than exist in any one of the 5 counties that make up New York City, with a land area that is larger than any other state, they shouldn't have nearly as much issue.

Well, we will see in hindsight how that plays out in Alaska

By the time that happens in a couple months, the rest of the US will be recovered. We can hope.

It does appear this thing impacts densely populated areas much more significantly than less densely populated areas... though that is not exactly a unique characteristic. Alaska has a lack of density in its favor here.

Definitely - to use NY as an example - yesterday the number of tested positive was around 11,000 (since NY seems to have done more testing than many states). Out of that, all but 300-400 (so approximately 10,650) were confined to 9 counties (NYC accounts for 5 of those, Suffolk & Nassau on Long Island and Westchester & Rockland just outside the city north & west.

Those other 350 or so are spread over 53 other counties (so an average of 6 per county), some of those counties actually have areas that are closer in population to Alaska.