Gold Peak Tea- Phosphoric Acid

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Gold Peak Tea- Phosphoric Acid

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Bought a container of refrigerated Gold Peak Tea (Coke?), ingredient list was Brewed Tea and Phosphoric Acid. Didn't particularly like how it tasted and only consumed a couple sips and let it go. The shelf life of this is limited as it is refrigerated. Plastic bottle.

Occassionally purchase the Pure Leaf Tea (Pepsi) and know it has Citric Acid. Shelf life on this seems longer, maybe 9 months or so, and it is shelf stable. Plastic bottle.

The glass bottle Tejava product produced by Crystal Geyser in NorCal sold mostly around CA (gets more expensive the further you get from NorCal) or private label of it that Trader Joe's sells just has tea as an ingredient and nothing else. It also has a 2 year shelf life in the glass bottle. It is sold in a plastic bottle, same product, also, and that version only has a 1 year shelf life.

So I am confused why the two products with chemical added have a shorter shelf life than the product with no chemical added? Is it the plastic bottle vs. glass bottle?
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Plastic bottles will leach chemicals due to the acid. So the tea companies probably added a shorter expiration date. After a period of time the chemicals leaching out of the plastic will totally ruin the taste not to mention the unforseen health risks. It seems even a short period of time in plastic will cause the tea to have an awful taste.

I don't trust any acidic drink in a plastic bottle for long. It needs to be consumed very quickly once bottled.

There is a reason why some liquid medications in pharmacies must be stored in glass. The acid will totally ruin the medication after even a short period of time. Cough medications used to be in glass bottles, but the almighty dollar spoke and companies switched to plastic. Glass is best.

Perhaps all this plastic is leading to higher cancer rates and other illnesses that used to be much rarer.
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Alpha8472 wrote: November 14th, 2024, 12:18 pm Plastic bottles will leach chemicals due to the acid. So the tea companies probably added a shorter expiration date. After a period of time the chemicals leaching out of the plastic will totally ruin the taste not to mention the unforseen health risks. It seems even a short period of time in plastic will cause the tea to have an awful taste.

I don't trust any acidic drink in a plastic bottle for long. It needs to be consumed very quickly once bottled.

There is a reason why some liquid medications in pharmacies must be stored in glass. The acid will totally ruin the medication after even a short period of time. Cough medications used to be in glass bottles, but the almighty dollar spoke and companies switched to plastic. Glass is best.

Perhaps all this plastic is leading to higher cancer rates and other illnesses that used to be much rarer.
I've had some random bottled drinks that have sat around long past expiration dates and I notice the plastic gets... much more flexible. Juices and the like. Even still water.

I just wonder why they add phosphoric acid to this tea, but other tea brands even in plastic bottles Lipton and Tejava at least do not use that ingredient. But Lipton uses Citric Acid.

I've used some long expired cough syrups in those plastic bottles. Typically unopened. In cases where I needed the stuff immediately and hadn't bought any in years.
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Orange juice is acidic, yet it is still bottled in plastic containers. :?
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jamcool wrote: November 14th, 2024, 11:21 pm Orange juice is acidic, yet it is still bottled in plastic containers. :?
Some are using the paper cartons. Those are wax lined. I wonder how the acid and wax work. Similar to many hot coffee cups having that liner.. and very acidic coffee.
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Milk cartons and paper soda cups no longer use wax. The wax was replaced with polyethylene, which is a wax-like plastic. So when you drink out of milk cartons and paper soda cups you are drinking microplastics. Wax has not been used in a while. That is why Starbucks hot drink paper cups are not recyclable.

Sodas and teas in glass bottles do taste different. Milk used to be available in glass bottles. It was much safer back then. There are some dairies that still sell milk in glass bottles.
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Alpha8472 wrote: November 15th, 2024, 1:44 am Milk cartons and paper soda cups no longer use wax. The wax was replaced with polyethylene, which is a wax-like plastic. So when you drink out of milk cartons and paper soda cups you are drinking microplastics. Wax has not been used in a while. That is why Starbucks hot drink paper cups are not recylable.

Sodas and teas in glass bottles do taste different. Milk used to be available in glass bottles. It was much safer back then. There are some dairies that still sell milk in glass bottles.
So the paper cup is basically the same as a plastic cup. The lining sounds especially questionable to me for hot beverages.

Most of the milk I get is in plastic jugs since I typically buy at Smiths who has always used plastic jugs. Years ago the local dairy marketed that the plastic jugs were bad for milk as the light exposure somehow made the nutrients escape from the milk. At the time the Smiths milk from Utah was the only milk coming into the area in plastic jugs and I thought they were just trying to get people to buy their milk. Then that dairy got sold multiple times ended with Dean and is now Producers, and ironically almost all of their product that they produce in Reno is in plastic jugs now.
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I still think milk in plastic jugs tastes different. There are light resistant plastic jugs for milk. I have seen them at Sprouts. The milk from those do taste different as light is blocked.

Hot liquids and waxy plastic coatings is very questionable. The heat would leach chemicals. Perhaps a metal reusable cup would be a better idea.
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Soft drink cans have plastic linings. Canned vegetables and fruit have plastic linings. Because the acidity of soft drinks and vegetables/fruit would interact with the metal of the containers and change the flavor.
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Alpha8472 wrote: November 16th, 2024, 2:48 am I still think milk in plastic jugs tastes different. There are light resistant plastic jugs for milk. I have seen them at Sprouts. The milk from those do taste different as light is blocked.

Hot liquids and waxy plastic coatings is very questionable. The heat would leach chemicals. Perhaps a metal reusable cup would be a better idea.
I wonder if the foam or the waxy plastic coating is more risky with hot beverages.

I've seen those white milk bottles too.
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