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yeah, it seems like it was a continuation of the cookie-cutter development along the 60 in Moreno/Moreno Valley...big boxes with tall signage along the highway. It just doesn't have the benefit of development on all sides......though there didn't seem to be any hugely gaping spaces that caught our eye while we were there. Nothing except for WinCo that was worth the drive, though.
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The Super Target closed in 2016...only 3 non-supers left in the Coachella Valley
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Wow...................that Target closed?
I'm not surprised given the location (Indio).
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Not surprising Target closed, especially in that type of an area. Seasonal, and the location in general.
Not sure who decided it was a good idea to have a WinCo next to a Super Target either. Maybe the same person who thinks in Atwater it is a good idea to have a Super Target next to a Wal Mart Supercenter but in that case both are still open, Target limps along with 1/5 the traffic of the Wal Mart.
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yeah, the only significant development up on that side of the 10 is Sun City, and we know what good customers the >55 set is (though it is a 12 month customer).
Yeah, those Inland Empire developments are just like cookie cutters right along the 60 and other highways...seems every 8 miles there's another one with the same dreary selection of big boxes...sun-faded signage and label scars and all. That said, we're heading to Moreno Valley today to the Best Buy outlet (because two BB within 8 miles is excessive...lol)
Yeah, those Inland Empire developments are just like cookie cutters right along the 60 and other highways...seems every 8 miles there's another one with the same dreary selection of big boxes...sun-faded signage and label scars and all. That said, we're heading to Moreno Valley today to the Best Buy outlet (because two BB within 8 miles is excessive...lol)
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WinCo hasn’t done anything in Arizona recently…the proposed store in Goodyear (I-10@Pebble Creek) is still an empty lot (A Potato Barn mega-furniture is being built on the West side of the site) You think they would have entered Northern Arizona (especially near the Indian reservations)by now.
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Winco expands as quickly as they can pay for the new stores. They do not accrue debt to expand so their expansion is a slow steady race. It has never been their strategy to have a high concentration of stores in a market.
The model they use doesn't need a high store count in a given market. Little to no advertising. Little regional or district management. Little community involvement.
The model needs very high volume stores.
With all that said Winco doesn't seem to be a huge threat to anyone in most large metro areas due to how their model works. They are a threat in micro situations within a 5 or 10 mile radius of their store and that is it. They are a much bigger threat in smaller or medium size markets.
When they work with vendors they order huge quantities of product, full semis in many cases, to get dropped at a location. The vendors love it because they make them a deal and drop at a couple store locations and they're done, no going around to 25 low volume stores all over an area to merchandise that semi of product.
It goes the same for the trucks Winco sends from its own distribution center. They want to drop full load of a semi at one store. One stop for the driver and done. They don't want their truck to stop at 6 different stores and drop a few pallets like some other chains. This is also how they can support stores so far from a distribution center and still make the economics of it work.
The old Safeway could have buried this Winco chain easily in the 1990s and 2000s by undercutting them where they competed against them but didn't bother and that has allowed this Winco to become a pretty significant force that becomes stronger and stronger with time.
The model they use doesn't need a high store count in a given market. Little to no advertising. Little regional or district management. Little community involvement.
The model needs very high volume stores.
With all that said Winco doesn't seem to be a huge threat to anyone in most large metro areas due to how their model works. They are a threat in micro situations within a 5 or 10 mile radius of their store and that is it. They are a much bigger threat in smaller or medium size markets.
When they work with vendors they order huge quantities of product, full semis in many cases, to get dropped at a location. The vendors love it because they make them a deal and drop at a couple store locations and they're done, no going around to 25 low volume stores all over an area to merchandise that semi of product.
It goes the same for the trucks Winco sends from its own distribution center. They want to drop full load of a semi at one store. One stop for the driver and done. They don't want their truck to stop at 6 different stores and drop a few pallets like some other chains. This is also how they can support stores so far from a distribution center and still make the economics of it work.
The old Safeway could have buried this Winco chain easily in the 1990s and 2000s by undercutting them where they competed against them but didn't bother and that has allowed this Winco to become a pretty significant force that becomes stronger and stronger with time.