San Francisco Centre Renamed To Emporium Centre

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Re: San Francisco Centre Renamed To Emporium Centre

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There are new security systems for fire doors. Now at certain chains the fire doors are equipped with cameras and anti-theft systems. The fire doors will have a delay. They won't open until a timer counts down a delay.

The security systems will freeze the shopping cart wheels to prevent carts from leaving the store at fire exits. Then a loud alarm will sound making seem it like the fire exit is blocked.

The thief will then try to exit through another part of the store only to be blocked again by the time delay door. Security can override the fire door and keep it locked via the camera system. Then security will be watching them run through the store on the cameras.
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Alpha8472 wrote: March 10th, 2024, 8:54 pm There are new security systems for fire doors. Now at certain chains the fire doors are equipped with cameras and anti-theft systems. The fire doors will have a delay. They won't open until a timer counts down a delay.

The security systems will freeze the shopping cart wheels to prevent carts from leaving the store at fire exits. Then a loud alarm will sound making seem like the fire exit is blocked.

The thief will then try to exit through another part of the store only to be blocked again by the time delay door. Security can override the fire door and keep it locked via the camera system. Then security will be watching them run through the store on the cameras.
Yes, Safeway has this shopping cart alarm technology at the new store in Reno with the wheels that lock up. It is disappointing the number of times I've heard it go off due to people attempting to walk out without paying.
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Re: San Francisco Centre Renamed To Emporium Centre

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storewanderer wrote: March 10th, 2024, 9:13 pm
Alpha8472 wrote: March 10th, 2024, 8:54 pm There are new security systems for fire doors. Now at certain chains the fire doors are equipped with cameras and anti-theft systems. The fire doors will have a delay. They won't open until a timer counts down a delay.

The security systems will freeze the shopping cart wheels to prevent carts from leaving the store at fire exits. Then a loud alarm will sound making seem like the fire exit is blocked.

The thief will then try to exit through another part of the store only to be blocked again by the time delay door. Security can override the fire door and keep it locked via the camera system. Then security will be watching them run through the store on the cameras.
Yes, Safeway has this shopping cart alarm technology at the new store in Reno with the wheels that lock up. It is disappointing the number of times I've heard it go off due to people attempting to walk out without paying.
Home Depot is rolling out smart wheel locks to every store, even stores in "nice neighborhoods". If the cart is pushed through the register area or around it then the wheels will lock inside the doorway. We discovered this accidentally after going in and not buying something, we were trying to be nice and put the cart back instead of abandoning it. Apparently they have a transmitter at each register and when the transaction is completed then it sends a unlock signal to the wheel allowing it to pass through the exit door one time. The initial signage was not very good which is why we didn't realize the wheels would lock, but now they're adding larger signs warning that wheels may lock in doorways.
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ClownLoach wrote: March 11th, 2024, 11:55 am
storewanderer wrote: March 10th, 2024, 9:13 pm
Alpha8472 wrote: March 10th, 2024, 8:54 pm There are new security systems for fire doors. Now at certain chains the fire doors are equipped with cameras and anti-theft systems. The fire doors will have a delay. They won't open until a timer counts down a delay.

The security systems will freeze the shopping cart wheels to prevent carts from leaving the store at fire exits. Then a loud alarm will sound making seem like the fire exit is blocked.

The thief will then try to exit through another part of the store only to be blocked again by the time delay door. Security can override the fire door and keep it locked via the camera system. Then security will be watching them run through the store on the cameras.
Yes, Safeway has this shopping cart alarm technology at the new store in Reno with the wheels that lock up. It is disappointing the number of times I've heard it go off due to people attempting to walk out without paying.
Home Depot is rolling out smart wheel locks to every store, even stores in "nice neighborhoods". If the cart is pushed through the register area or around it then the wheels will lock inside the doorway. We discovered this accidentally after going in and not buying something, we were trying to be nice and put the cart back instead of abandoning it. Apparently they have a transmitter at each register and when the transaction is completed then it sends a unlock signal to the wheel allowing it to pass through the exit door one time. The initial signage was not very good which is why we didn't realize the wheels would lock, but now they're adding larger signs warning that wheels may lock in doorways.
H-E-B has had this technology for years but it was usually in regards to the store boundary--preventing shopping carts from walking off the property. There's usually no homeless people in the area but I've found in my neck of the woods there are apartment complexes, and they usually "borrow" carts to take home and then never return them.

A few years ago I discovered an Albertsons cart behind one of my local motels. It was in bad shape, and the nearby Albertsons had closed about 15 years prior.
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pseudo3d wrote: March 11th, 2024, 12:36 pm
ClownLoach wrote: March 11th, 2024, 11:55 am
storewanderer wrote: March 10th, 2024, 9:13 pm

Yes, Safeway has this shopping cart alarm technology at the new store in Reno with the wheels that lock up. It is disappointing the number of times I've heard it go off due to people attempting to walk out without paying.
Home Depot is rolling out smart wheel locks to every store, even stores in "nice neighborhoods". If the cart is pushed through the register area or around it then the wheels will lock inside the doorway. We discovered this accidentally after going in and not buying something, we were trying to be nice and put the cart back instead of abandoning it. Apparently they have a transmitter at each register and when the transaction is completed then it sends a unlock signal to the wheel allowing it to pass through the exit door one time. The initial signage was not very good which is why we didn't realize the wheels would lock, but now they're adding larger signs warning that wheels may lock in doorways.
H-E-B has had this technology for years but it was usually in regards to the store boundary--preventing shopping carts from walking off the property. There's usually no homeless people in the area but I've found in my neck of the woods there are apartment complexes, and they usually "borrow" carts to take home and then never return them.

A few years ago I discovered an Albertsons cart behind one of my local motels. It was in bad shape, and the nearby Albertsons had closed about 15 years prior.
This is a totally different technology and idea. It is for shrink prevention as it stops unpaid carts from exiting the store while paid carts are automatically released. This requires new technologies that include a register software upgrade to communicate to a transmitter on the bottom of the checkstand to unlock the specified cart that is identified with an RFID tag that is read by a separate receiver. It is very sophisticated and designed entirely to stop "cart runs" where a full basket of unpaid merchandise is pushed out to a waiting car or truck out front for a quick escape. They also appear to be very secure wheels that can't be easily disabled or removed.

The older buried wire cart containment systems are to prevent carts from leaving the parking lot and usually are installed because of municipal requirements where carts can be impounded and the business heavily fined. It is increasingly common in California. Unfortunately those systems usually have common remotes and are easily disabled with battery removal. I have seen carts with these visible bright yellow locks or distinctive lock wheels that the homeless were able to circumvent.
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Alpha8472 wrote: March 5th, 2024, 8:08 pm When you hear San Francisco Centre you immediately think homeless, crime, robberies, drug addicts, etc. They probably just wanted to get the San Francisco name off of the building. Some companies just might want to open up in the shopping center if it has no connection to the tarnished San Francisco name.
The only people who think that way are people in the midwest and south who watch Fox News all day, and those people aren't visiting San Francisco anyway so it doesn't really matter.
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HCal wrote: March 23rd, 2024, 12:06 am
Alpha8472 wrote: March 5th, 2024, 8:08 pm When you hear San Francisco Centre you immediately think homeless, crime, robberies, drug addicts, etc. They probably just wanted to get the San Francisco name off of the building. Some companies just might want to open up in the shopping center if it has no connection to the tarnished San Francisco name.
The only people who think that way are people in the midwest and south who watch Fox News all day, and those people aren't visiting San Francisco anyway so it doesn't really matter.
Maybe you should go read the reviews of people who have gone there lately and see what they are saying. People who go to the still open stores seem to be having a positive experience. It is a nice facility. Great transit link. People who mess around in the various/majority vacant areas of the mall or food court, not so positive of an experience...

You may also want to read about what some tenants have to say about the mall, security issues, and their decisions about continuing operating in the mall due to those issues.

It is however also not exactly unusual for malls that get majority vacant to start to have issues with homeless, crime, robberies, etc.

But at this point how much longer can anyone possibly defend what is going on in San Francisco? The Union Square area is losing more stores every month. This mall the San Francisco Centre just lost Sephora and L'Occitane a week or two ago. I assume other tenants must have opened that I missed- maybe you can find out who those tenants are who have opened up to replace all the stuff that has closed?
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HCal wrote: March 23rd, 2024, 12:06 am
Alpha8472 wrote: March 5th, 2024, 8:08 pm When you hear San Francisco Centre you immediately think homeless, crime, robberies, drug addicts, etc. They probably just wanted to get the San Francisco name off of the building. Some companies just might want to open up in the shopping center if it has no connection to the tarnished San Francisco name.
The only people who think that way are people in the midwest and south who watch Fox News all day, and those people aren't visiting San Francisco anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Thank you!!!

Hyperbole becomes exhausting.
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veteran+ wrote: March 23rd, 2024, 9:16 am
HCal wrote: March 23rd, 2024, 12:06 am
Alpha8472 wrote: March 5th, 2024, 8:08 pm When you hear San Francisco Centre you immediately think homeless, crime, robberies, drug addicts, etc. They probably just wanted to get the San Francisco name off of the building. Some companies just might want to open up in the shopping center if it has no connection to the tarnished San Francisco name.
The only people who think that way are people in the midwest and south who watch Fox News all day, and those people aren't visiting San Francisco anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Thank you!!!

Hyperbole becomes exhausting.
The volume of store closures which continue to happen on an ongoing basis speak volumes as to what is going on. If the store closures had stopped a few months ago OR were being replaced by many new stores, I would agree with you here. But that isn't happening..

This attitude of denial is not going to help the situation and will only enable it to worsen.

At this point all better hope the Macys closure decision is canceled. Because the closure stream in this San Francisco Centre really accelerated after Nordstrom closed. I think if Macys closes there will be a similar acceleration of store closures for retailers out on the streets surrounding Macys, which still have quite a few open stores.
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There are many complicated issues at play that no one here has access to.

So for me, cursory hyperbole does not work.
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